Says right here on wikipedia : The series will be a prequel about Saul's life before he became Walter White's lawyer. would they risk going to war with the enigmatic Heisenberg over him? While difficult, the killings go according to plan and all 10 targets are brutally slaughtered. A subreddit for fans and critics of the hit television series Breaking Bad on AMC. VideoTwenty three minutes into Episode 514, entitled "Ozymandias" after a Shelley poem, Breaking Bad made television history. If every prison gang went to war every time one of their members' relatives got killed doing something illegal and stupid, they wouldn't have a gang left. Maybe we should just agree to disagree? [–]WheresMyElephant 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago* (19 children). He's an ex cop who knows how to operate outside the law. Mike's a character, written by Vince Gilligan who has admittedly zero personal experience with criminals. Now, could they follow your reasoning? He's just Jack's stupid nephew that got killed by his boss because he couldn't control his trigger finger. [–]TheBlackBear 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children). [–]canucklehead272 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children), If Mike's still around the gang doesn't become a problem. "ABQ" is an abbreviation of the city Breaking Bad is set, which is Albuquerque. We revisited the series and ranked every episode, worst to best. But I don't see how that stops it from becoming messy (i.e., lots of blood and potential legal exposure) and expensive (i.e. Mike dangerously underestimating Todd's uncle Jack and his crew. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: POST YOUR ART HERE!Spoilers CoveredNo Spoilers Shown/r/BETTERCALLSAUL! When submitting an image, use a reliable host (Imgur, Minus, Flickr, etc) and link directly to it (URL ends in .png, .jpg, .gif, etc). Why not, it's not much of a risk for an armed gang to go after a cook. Onder de titel Metástasis werd in Colombia een Spaanstalige remake van Breaking Bad gemaakt. Yep, with some damn creative engineering skills and a M-50 machine gun! All content that is not directly-related to Breaking Bad will be removed (this includes image macros/memes, reaction images, HIFW images, and screenshots from websites/social media/text messages/etc). Here you will find discussions and speculations about the show, pictures from the show, AMA's with the cast, and anything else Breaking Bad related. In stories like this, there's often an unreliable narrator factor, in which the protagonist's worldview and fallible memory skews what the audience sees. Any post or comment linking to a live stream or illegal download site for Breaking Bad might get removed. I guess familiarity really does breed contempt. When his relationship to Heisenberg brought them a lucrative business opportunity, he suddenly became an asset. The twins went after Walt personally because it was a family revenge thing. Why take the chance of finding out? What a finale!!! "Felina" is the series finale of the American drama television series Breaking Bad. Ask questions and download or stream the entire soundtrack on Spotify, YouTube, iTunes, & Amazon. Aside from when Mike was personally involved, they were owning Gus on his own turf. Tyler Hersko Oct 10, 2019 1:30 pm I seem to recall 5 or 6 of them spraying automatic weapons at Hank and mostly missing. [–]WheresMyElephant 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children). Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan has previously said that he got the idea from the death of Jack Parsons in 1952. He killed Tuco Salamanca; he inherited whatever's left of Fring's operation; he's selling to a network of dealers across the state and beyond; who knows what else? Let's say Jack decides to send eight guys to burn down the Vamonos Pest office, as phase one of his retaliation. * Listed in chronological order unless Bob Odenkirk. SUV-loads of armed DEA-slayers that also wiped out Gus' entire organization in minutes because they control the prison. Mike was a killer but the relationship with his granddaughter put us on his side, Saul.. In hindsight we know he should have been more cautious, and they should have been more feared. No way, [–]kuavi -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children). But Mike (who knows a lot more than I do about how criminals think) seemed to think it'd be fine, and it's not like he could have mistaken a Neo-Nazi militia for a bingo game at the old folks' home. The man was a saint. Short of writing it off as a plot hole, it's the best explanation I can see. Breaking Bad Season 5. ... (via Reddit) Share This Article. Big, big spoilers ahead. Breaking Bad When Walter White, a New Mexico chemistry teacher, is diagnosed with Stage III cancer and given a prognosis of only two years left to live, he becomes filled with a sense of fearlessness and an unrelenting desire to secure his family's financial future at. Walt is the arrogant Chem teacher trying to be a meth king pin. [–]Sin_Researcher[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (11 children). If Jack really was sore about it, he still may not take action. So either the character mistakenly underestimated Todd's uncle Jack, or it was another case of the writer not knowing what comes next (doubtful). Open your System Preferences and click on the desktop icon. Gus says that eventually Jesse will come around and let him kill Walt. Almost none of the darkest predictions about the Breaking Bad finale came true. The bad people-- Lydia, Todd and the Nazis-- were punished. [–]Steven054 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children). If Todd was killed as a result of him fucking up on a job, the Nazis may just let it go as a cost of the lifestyle, if they knew it was Walt at all. [–]WheresMyElephant 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (7 children). The Definitive Ranking Of All 33 Breaking Bad Characters. In fact that's exactly what happened, and Walt was powerless against them until the last few minutes. MAC USERS: Select size and then CTRL + click on the image to save to your hard drive. 21 "Breaking Bad" Easter Eggs That Will Blow Your Mind. ", [–]Sin_Researcher[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (7 children). What's for dinner? Netflix's El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie is meant to bring back at least 10 characters from the AMC show. "Aw, shucks. Why would they have to do that? He was a bit arrogant though, always wanted his way! Walt was the only one he feared and that's what ended up being the end of him. (i.imgur.com), [–]Quazifuji 89 points90 points91 points 4 years ago (4 children). ("Gliding Over All") Following Walter's abr… Mike kicks a lot of ass but he's still just one guy. And he's in his car, two seconds from driving away forever, and this guy is egging him on. Mike is also a lot more intelligent than Jack. Maybe this is because he is the final enemy, but I also think it makes him a slightly one dimensional character compared to the others. Breaking Bad Series Finale Cranston Skinny Pete in Car - H 2013 Walter White's journey ends -- but not before Heisenberg, Jesse and Uncle Jack speak their … [–]WheresMyElephant 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children), It's pretty easy to outthink Tuco, too, but he was still dangerous. Breaking Bad is widely considered one of the best TV shows of all time, but which episodes were the best? [–]ThemeFromTheBottom 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children), Well, to be honest, they werent a problem until walt gave them gps coordinates of his stash of 80 fucking million dollars. The neo-nazis probably knew Mike had enough connections to waste their group if something happened to him. [–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child). Warning: This article contains big hairy spoilers for anyone who isn't up to speed. Vengeance. Come on. They were debating what to do with Todd after Todd shot the child; and the question is whether they need to worry about Jack if they kill Todd (who, at this very moment, might be calling Jack and letting him know who to blame if Todd disappears). Are Jesse Pinkman and Walter Jr. the same person? Written and directed by series creator Vince Gilligan, it aired on AMC in the United States and Canada on September 29, 2013. Mike was operating against the Juarez cartel for years, the nazis weren't in the same league and wouldn't be in a position to kill everyone in Heisenberg's operation. My understanding was that Todd was not really a part of Jack's gang at this point. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 27543 on r2-app-0b75c749a5ad6fff3 at 2020-12-24 19:50:27.990097+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: US. Even normal everyday people would exact revenge on a murdered nephew, and you're confused about how an armed and dangerous gang would react? They may have had guns but Walt could outspend them easily. Jack's gang had truckloads full of trained killers, and owned the prisons. [–]aamir_mlk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child). Last night El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie had its world premiere in Los Angeles. At most they know what Todd knows, which isn't much. Mike dangerously underestimating Todd's uncle Jack and his crew. The good people-- almost everyone else-- … [–]WheresMyElephant 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children). When Jack and his henchmen hit the money barrels after only four shovelfulls of dirt, with Walt lying defeated behind them, all I could think was how easy and fast it was for him to go from having everything to having nothing. How the government was hoping we would react (made by me), My boy No-Doze didn't deserve what he got. To keep content fresh, reposts and submissions without significant commentary relevant to Breaking Bad may be removed at moderator discretion. They were instead ready to … I stress "enigmatic" because the extent of Heisenberg's strength isn't necessarily known to them at this point. In 2019 kreeg Breaking Bad met de film El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie ook een vervolg. That's probably why we still have neo-nazis in the world and they still cause trouble, despite the ease of outstrategizing them. Truckloads of killers sure, trained? tunefind He was ready to leave with barely a word. Because in your scenario Walt murders Todd, so the gang would just kill everyone. 'Breaking Bad' Uses Monkees Song in Key Meth Cooking Scene; Micky Dolenz Weighs In A star of NBC's "Circus Boy" (1956-58), the 66-year-old L.A. native also starred on Broadway in … I couldn't remember exactly when they say the quote. Jack and Kenny were the best part of S5, not only more honorable than Walt ("what's with all the greed here? But Walter is dumbstruck when he learns he has terminal cancer. Something occurred to me while rewatching, Jack is perhaps the only character who is unquestionably a 'bad guy'. [–]rexcannon 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children). If Mike's not at all concerned about this, surely it's because he's confident things won't come to that. Walt made them a problem by involving them. Mike (who knows a lot more than I do about how criminals think). Right; I conceded that in the post you're replying to. Mike didn't die because of them, he died because of Walt. [–]Sin_Researcher[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (18 children). Jack's gang had truckloads full of trained killers. [–]CloudyWithRain 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child). Jack and his crew were ultimately taken down by one man. Breaking Bad Quotes Total quotes: 60 Show Metadata Hide Metadata. [–]dawgz525 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). Sunday's series finale, "Felina," might have been too tidy for some critics, but it certainly didn't tie up every narrative loose end in the "Breaking Bad" universe. If you ran a massive prison gang that way you would find yourself at war with every other gang every other day. now Mike has to pay those guys, which merits some discussion). [–]Sin_Researcher[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children). We will not censor our IRC channel, because it is a great medium for free speech and we support that. Mike has the cash and connections to hire some backup, but I it's hard to imagine how he can reliably stop this from becoming both messy and expensive, if Jack wanted it that way. I also considered how easily baited Jack was by Walt, but then I suppose Mike was too. *** Eric is a New York City-based writer who still isn’t sure how he’s allowed to have this much fun for a living and will tell anyone who listens that Gotham City is canonically in New Jersey. And he was almost good enough. When does the show say anything about this? No whining like a little bitch if your post is removed by the mods. Do not put character death or series finale spoilers in your submission title. Jack negotiating with Walter White over killing Jesse Pinkman. Especially if nephews are murdered by a highly lucrative operation. Who mike? and not (according to the show) US prisons. The Nazi's would have had no business with Walt, Mike, and Jessie had Walt not looped them in. Somewhere along the line he went from "Walt is a timebomb that I should distance myself from immediately" to "Well I just yelled at Walt and gave him way more truth than he can handle, now would be a good time to turn my back to him for a while". [–]Sin_Researcher[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (9 children). Here's a question for you: what do you think Todd would say if Walt murdered Jack? Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Walt needs their help hunting down one stupid junkie; then gets caught by the cops with his pants down in the desert; then he cries and begs them for mercy; then they find out exactly how powerful he is in dollar terms; and then they take 7/8 of those dollars. Not to generalize or anything but it's usually pretty easy to out think a cranked up neo-nazi. Mike's assumption was if they didn't provoke the gang, they should be ok, implying they can be trusted. Now I'm confused. AFAIK "Better Call Saul" is the prequel to Breaking Bad, which means this money didn't exist in its timeline. I think some forget that criminal business does run like an actual business. With fans still reeling from the ending of cult phenomenon "Breaking Bad," stars of the show have started discussing what the ending of the show means to them. Now Jack is the head of the gang; maybe he's special. I can maybe imagine Mike winning the fight, but I can't imagine how it happens quietly and harmlessly, guaranteed. – user1306322 Oct 1 '13 at 10:15 Hierin staat Saul Goodman centraal, Walter H. White's louche voormalige advocaat, net als in Breaking Bad gespeeld door Bob Odenkirk. EL CAMINO: A BREAKING BAD MOVIE will hit Netflix on Friday, October 11. Now if the nephew of someone like Jack got murdered by someone like Spooge? Written and directed by Peter Gould , it aired on AMC in the United States and Canada on September 22, 2013. Right, but the context of this quote isn't to do with hiring them for security. Who's better at keeping their head down, swallowing their pride, chemically disincorporating a child with nary a complaint, doing whatever has to be done? [–]WheresMyElephant 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (8 children). But would they risk going to war with the enigmatic Heisenberg over him? If you are a new viewer, we strongly recommend you finish the series before you post here. A logical, sane man would avoid working with them, atleast I would imagine, but it's hard to judge Walts mental state that far into the series. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Or maybe getting your lieutenants killed over your personal shit, far from being accepted practice, is a pretty good reason for the rest of the lieutenants to stage a mutiny. In more ways than one, when Walt's involved. (That's not sarcasm; I acknowledge it as a possibility.) Now Jack is the head of the gang; maybe he's special. Huh? If you intentionally spoil the series for new viewers, it will result in a ban. [–]JD_1994_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). Probably the same sort of thing he said when Jack went to murder Walt. [–]rexcannon 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (8 children). His salary barely makes ends meet, a situation not likely to improve once his pregnant wife gives birth, and their teenage son is battling cerebral palsy. It seems like they intentionally made him unlikable. It was. Near the end of the episode crawl space, Gus tells Walt that he can't kill Walt because Jesse wouldn't allow it. And Gus wiped out the cartel with a bottle of tequila. They wouldn't have been a problem if Mike was still around. Yeah, Mike may have had both the connections and the understanding of necessary precautions to ensure that Jack wouldn't become a problem. Squelched and suppressed how? Aaron Paul breaks down some of the best Breaking Bad and El Camino fan theories from Reddit. I'm not so sure, and Mike doesn't seem to think so. (That's not really germane, but who could resist bringing it up?). [–]Lavallamp 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children). Find all 367 songs featured in Breaking Bad Soundtrack, listed by episode with scene descriptions. they were pretty easy to work with up until that point, [–]Toovya 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children). and join one of thousands of communities. Pretty hard to fear him at that point. I have to say, it seems like we're starting to go in circles. Nobody could resist. DBAA! At most they know what Todd knows, which isn't much. It's unattractive") but more competent, more powerful, and quite frankly more entertaining. Desktop Wallpaper. It's after Mike was gone that the trouble began. Creators: Vince Gilligan & Peter Gould; Stars: Bob Odenkirk, ‎Jonathan Banks, Rhea Seehorn; Season 5 has finished airing. The cartel only had power in Mexico, that's why they need to send twins or that other sniper, not the US and not (according to the show) US prisons. Edit: Oh yeah, and he sat in that car with Jesse for a whole day, and only blew his stack a tiny bit. Edit: Of course, later on it's a whole different ballgame. Mike was operating against the Juarez cartel for years, the nazis weren't in the same league and wouldn't be in a position to kill everyone in Heisenberg's operation. [–]Ubister 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child), It's pragmatic to care about what else they are so they won't become a problem later, I think Mike was much more pragmatic than Walt in that sense, [–]WheresMyElephant 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (2 children). They were just rabid dogs that Gus and Walt let off the leash by taking down the top of the food chain. [–]Sin_Researcher[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child). Because Mike would have had other guys if needed them along with his master planning. [–]SirFoxx 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child). But he finally met his match: the most intolerable prick on planet Earth. [–]toki09Say you want this 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children). Even the 'good guys' had murky morals (hank, Marie), Jack doesn't seem to have any redeeming qualities, he is designed for the audience to dislike. Thanks to AMC. Put the word "spoilers" in the title if your post contains details about Better Call Saul episodes. [src] Jack Welker was the leader of a criminal groupwithwhite supremacist or neo-Nazi ideologies. Seems a little optimistic. But Mike was left with little choice in that matter. [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children). Ca3(PO4)2 is a major component of bone, so this problem is looking at whether or not the amount of hydrofluoric acid (HF) at the given concentration was enough to dissolve a full human skeleton. [–]cakky1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children). [–]WheresMyElephant 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (12 children). The Breaking Bad prequel movie “El Camino” was released on October 11, 2019; Better Call Saul info. true! Drage the image you want to place as your desktop into the 'Current Desktop Picture' thumbnail. The worst part of it is, who's more careful than Mike? Alex Gianopoulos (Location Scout, Breaking Bad), Breaking Bad Staff (Michelle MacLaren, Gordon Smith, Jenn Carroll & Trevor Baker), Thomas Golubić (Music Supervisor, Breaking Bad), Character deaths and any series finale details are spoilers. Outthinking a strong enemy is great but it doesn't even ensure victory, let alone ensure that you can just make them vanish with no unpleasant side consequences along the way. [–]Teraxias 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child). Walt is obviously a criminal but the audience were on his side, Gus was ruthless but his flashback to his friend gained sympathy. I just question the lengths Jack would have went to for Todd making a mistake and getting himself killed by another org. The latest finding is a doozy and proves that when it comes to the series' episode titles, there's always a deeper meaning just waiting to be unearthed. [–]dawgz525 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children). [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children). It is the sixteenth episode of season five and the 62nd overall episode of the series. My chemistry professor did a Breaking Bad problem. Breaking Bad season 5 Gliding all over it. Sure, I can't rule it out. "Granite State" is the fifteenth and the penultimate episode of the fifth season of the American television drama series Breaking Bad, and the 61st and penultimate episode of the series. Though Breaking Bad rarely lacks action, "Dead Freight" brings it to summer blockbuster movie standards -- or at least a scene out of the The Great Train … With "El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie" premiering on Netflix tomorrow, there's never been a better time to brush up on your "Breaking Bad" classics. That would have been hard to miss, assuming Mike vets everyone, which I think he does. PC USERS: Select size then right click on the image and select 'Set as Wallpaper'. Exactly, Mike most definitely knew Todd's uncle was the leader of a group of skin head. Jack became a problem because of decisions that Walt, and Mike wouldn't have made those same decisions. Why take the chance of finding out? You either didn't watch the show or you're an imbecile. Or nephews. Sure, they would hunt that guy the fuck down. Or maybe getting your lieutenants killed over your personal shit is exactly how mutinies start. We take this seriously, violating this policy can result in a ban. The gang initially met White when he contracted them to arrange the murder of ten of Gus Fring's former employees and associates in three separate jail within a two-minute window. If Todd gets into business with this guy and gets himself killed, it's not personal. You have been warned. When he started cooking blue meth, they said holy shit, we need this guy on the team. By "why take the chance" I mean, why would they risk attacking Walt if Walt might turn out to be much more powerful than they realize? Walt should have deferred to Mike on most criminal matters, but he never would. Mild-mannered high school chemistry teacher Walter White thinks his life can't get much worse. Related: Breaking Bad: Kandy Welding Company Explained Unlike Breaking Bad, which had a broader view of the storyline, El Camino is told almost entirely from Jesse's perspective. Basically a career criminal. But before that, he was just Jack's kid nephew who knew how to burgle. [–]WheresMyElephant 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (10 children). Breaking Bad is a series so stacked with nuance that, even seven years after its finale aired, fans are still uncovering new Easter eggs in their rewatches of the celebrated AMC series. Rendered by PID 27543 on r2-app-0b75c749a5ad6fff3 at 2020-12-24 19:50:27.990097+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: US. Michael Bowen, the actor who played Uncle Jack Welker on the hit AMC original drama, recently talked about the ending of "Breaking Bad." Perhaps it would have been messy and expensive. If Heisenberg is even a little stronger than they thought and some of his guys die over Jack's personal feud (which, honestly, Mike alone might acheive), that's Jack's organization and his leadership position weakened at once. I own no rights to this video, it is for entertainment purposes only. [–]Sin_Researcher[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (20 children). He'd essentially be declaring war on the drug kingpin of the SW just as his power is peaking. Discussion: Ozzymandias - the best episode ever. Except that most fans didn’t notice. [–]WheresMyElephant 92 points93 points94 points 4 years ago* (22 children). I know this is a mess, but still pretty cool. It's so much easier to send flowers to the funeral and get on with their lives. [–]MtDew-on-IV 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). You MUST pick a nickname that doesn't start with snoo, kiwi, or mib to join the channel. ... Jack, Todd and the Nazis were the final threat to Walt's family and now that they were eliminated and Elliot and Gretchen were going to give Junior 9 million dollars on his 18th birthday Walt was free of his burden. I have no doubt Mike would have easily squelched and suppressed anything they did. Obviously Aaron Paul's Jesse Pinkman … His problem with Walt was really that he got comfortable with him. 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