Surya argues : Had she confessed to Pandu about her son , he would have agreed to make him King, Chiraan : Even if she had agreed Karna would not become King as he is not son of Pandu, Kunti having given him up saved him from being called KANIN .and people of Hastinapur would not accept a KANIN to be a King as was evident when Duryodhan raised doubts over Yudhisthir none objected until Vedavyasa came and told that they were born in presence of PANDU .. Hundreds and hundreds of sons. Chiraan says. I have been very religious person, tried to follow all the rules and regulations, taught by elders and learned and saints. It is said that God before engaging in any action shows us our true colors and deeds. The first verse itself has anamoly . Surya refuses to be drawn into debate on what is authentic and what is unauthentic ? See more of ARJUN vs KARNA on Facebook. Mother’s love and favour Jetzt nicht. Surya : when his archery was exhibited why was he not eligible to become a king.Why did Bheema abuse him. Swaminathan in his book also says KArna failed. The only difference was that Arjuna hatedthem and Karna loved them. There are many ways to shoot brahmastra He showered down arrows and. Karna did not string the bow but failed by hairs breadth. Arjuna himself confessed that he FORGOT bhagvad gita and asked lord Krishna to, recite bhagvad gita once again. If Arjun or anyone had the same, they too couldn't be defeated. Thats why lots of educated and learned mushlim people are abondening the islam. pashupata and the fulfilment of his pledge. OR it is lord’s desire to keep this world rolling. It is just for those people, who follow the tradition and retuals, or they do not have time or desire to dig into the root. Surya : Karna would have married Draupadi , as he would not have been rejected by Draupadi as suta and he would have hit the fish in swayamvar. Fernsehsendung. This was what we call God’s will. Using His generosity was legendary. ARJUN VS KARNA in Virat war Arjun and Karna fought each other twice in Virat war. 3) While releasing wheel of his chariot, karna released varunastra. Once our Mahadev granted 8 boons to Krishna. Also see that arjun haD submitted himself to god while karna hadn’t . It proves that Karna was weaponless, chariotless and heedless, 2) Arjuna had countered brahmastra and shot agneyastra. cheated him and his knowledge of bhagvad gita. Karna was the better man and warrior. a. by giving him KAvach kundal [ physical protection] failure of brahmastra of vimna partho. Chiraan : If Ganguly’s version is translation then in original Sanskrit it is written as “KARNA’ and “SHALYA” as failed to string and not Radha’s son ; Ganguly has tampered the text by translating KARNA as radha’s son . We should take inspiration from both . bow by using his mental powers. In fect to realise the suprim, you have to go through by these belif, than mentally fight for the authenticity of all aspects of relision, before finding the eternal truth and freedom, even in our sanatan dharma. Personal Blog. – On which Shri Chiraan replied that Though Vijay is superior bow , it is a boon from Parshuram and Karna could lift it with boon . suta became confused in the battle. However, I am incapable of That is the reason I thought of means to slay those lords of men. I apologize if I am sounding offensive but in a debate a jury cannot consult the debator. destructive weapons be it Bhargavastra, Pashupatastra, Brahmastra or Archery power in Mahabaratha was dependent on 1. This is for Chiraan karna vs satyaki part 2 !! 10,123 talking about this. How come he did not use Indra’s mighty Shakti weapon against Arjun? so common sense suggests Karna strung the bow. many weapons and some escaped from his memory. Its Lord Shiva and Brahma who are known to give boons quickly hence are usually worshipped by asuras. so common sense suggests Karna strung the bow. All of them approved the words of Duryodhana and accepted that Karna, Bhishma, Drona and Bhurishrava were killed through adharma. lordship and your form. ‘It is certain that the preceptor ’s curse followed you.That is the reason the earth swallowed up the wheel of your chariot. if he were unwelcome his name would have been struck or never mentioned. Only Fan Page Of MRITYUNJAY Karna Based On Authentic Versions Of Mahabharata This shows that loyalty to another person can lead even a great man to a tragic end. misconception - draupadi's swayamwar competition w... madhwacharya and mahabharata tatparya nirnaya !! That saved Arjun. LOL. ( Log Out /  Mahabharat Episode 44: Arjuna vs Karna – A Battle between Archrivals . Surya acuses Chiraan of being like mullahs and evangelist who resort to Arabic or Hebrew when cornered. KARNA vs ARJUN PERFORMANCE ANALYSIS FROM KURUKSHET... EXPOSING THE FAKE REASON OF KARNA OF BOW DESTRUCTI... BORI CRITICAL EDITION !! was one of the most destructive weapon later shot by skilled arher. He offered him the world at his feet! arjun is arjun no doubt but karna is karna too karna and arjun are equal but if karna had the kavaach and kundal he would be immortal. Krishna’s son shamb was born due to Mahadev’s & Ma Parvati’s boon. Arguments and debates lead only to ego issues and nothing else. having disappeared. At the swayamvar, as per one source it was at Krishna’s behest that Draupadi refused Karna the right to participate. 1) After hearing golden words of Duryodhana, all gods adopted the side of Duryodhana. KARNA vs SATYAKI Part 2 !! In his mind, he wished that all this might come true. While Radheya looked on, the valiant one used the vayavya weapon and dispelled all the clouds. Forgot account? in todays era this not seen , slowly even after mensturation begins women would not develop complete physical development , in future. injustice HAR HAR MAHADEV LORD KRISHNA, GODS, APSARAS. But Karna wanted to excel in astra vidya more than other kshatriyas hence he lied as bramhins had more astra vidya than kshatriya . Bad mouthing will only make you dispensable. DEMON NIKUMBHA DEFEATING … When Arjun went after Jayadrath, Karna tried to stop him fighting side by side with other great warriors but was defeated time and again singlehandedly by Arjun along with the said warriors. It is very important to note Krishnas role in Arjuns life, as he was there for him at every corner. Krishna also got other 8 boons from Mata Prvati too, these were We all know what happened after all this…[Vimna partho Also see that arjun haD submitted himself to god while karna hadn’t . Karna Karna Vadha Parva ,Section 73,Chapter 1195(45),Bori The immensely strong one with an immeasurable soul took a pledge of truth and invoked the bhargava weapon.557 O king! you all don’t know what is truth , what is dharma . Both Arjuna and Karna were master archers and both competed for Draupadi's hand. Karna used all his strength to serve his friend Duryodhan, without even one selfish thought for himself. Paarth - The Legend. Arjuna - The Mahanayak. few centuries back average man was 8 ft tall , gioing by todays std that is very odd , can you dismiss that as fiction. Yes, Drona was also responsible but his weapons were neutralized by Arjun in mid Only Fan Page Of MRITYUNJAY Karna Based On Authentic Versions Of Mahabharata Hundred sons Had Kunti not abandoned Karna at birth , Karna would have been taught by Drona .Would not have attracted curses. Undercover it seems like you are purposely re-opening debating points but trying not to sound biased. only kshatriyas become King , A caste is determined not by birth but by sanskar[rites] that are performed. Our enemies were dying due to this man’s presence and aura only, yet people say that I was slaying our enemies when the truth is this man was actually slaying our enemies by his presence. What about the stength of the horses that drew Arjun’s chariot? Though Karna spared Bheem’s life, it was not shown that Bheem had aslo spared Karna’s life as it was Arjun’s vow to kill him. He defeats Yudhishthira, Bhima, Nakula and Sahadeva, but as promised doesn't kill them. O Pandava! exposing the much over glorified amogh shakti ! and Thus HE was inferior to ARJUN . That was about the managed to surpass the curse of lord parshurama. UNFAIR DEATH OF KARNA FROM … However, my intelligence has been destroyed and I have However, Arjuna had the one thing that Karna lacked. supreme among eloquent ones, embraced Phalguna and replied in these words. In a fair fight, even if we fought bravely, we were incapable of defeating them in the battle. The message which I want to convey is that agreed there versions which show Karna failing in Draupadi swayamavar but same version also dismisses the defeat of Karna at Arjunas hands. Arjuna - The Mahanayak. but karna did some mistakes that put spot over his greatness . Following dharma, even the guardians of the world themselves would not have been able to kill them. The feet of this man does not touch the ground, he does not even throws his trishul at our enemies yet thousands and thousands of trishools were coming out of his trishool. A persons ability to grasp the truth. As the legend progresses, these classmates become enemies, with Karna and the Kauravas allying against Arjuna and his four brothers. But raises a doubt if Karna could string VIJAY a bow given by Parshuram then how could he not string relatively lesser bow . Sinopsis Mahabharata 51 ANTV Kamis 12 November 2020, Pertarungan Sengit Arjuna Vs Duryudana & Karna Pangeran Arjuna menghujani pangeran Duryudana dengan lesakan panah-panahnya. In the battle of Kurukshetra, it was mostly because of Krishna that Arjun was able to survive it and win. And that is what saved him and constantly helped him attain victory all his life. Chiraan: God is all knowing , he Knew Karna was Kshatriya and hence he taught him , but since he lied ,he was cursed. Duryodhan made him a king against the rule of land . Karna took out his arrow and was reciting the mantra to shoot it toward Arjun. I think the debate is about pure skill in which Karna is better too. 14K likes. Related Pages. One which everyone knew and was with Rukmi which belonged to Indra earlier. This constitutes anomaly and renders the translation as unauthentic . With Krishna, Pandava Arjuna looked at that beautiful assembly Log In. Karna's death in Mahabharat is the end of a tragic journey of an extremely talented and brave soul who is thrown into challenging, humiliating and … Chiraan : Though Vijay is superior bow , it is a boon from Parshuram and Karna could lift it with boon . Otherwise, the Pandaveyas would never have obtained victory. will use my mental powers to hurl the brahmastra at Partha. 2. This only goes to show that the stories of the kavach kundal and shakti weapon were interpolations which were primarily done to uplift Karna’s character. i do not understand as to why anyone would argue on two characters in the Mahabharata. Surya says Draupadi had a double standard. After mentioning his name , Drupad and Dhristadhyumn makes a vow that whoever strikes will get Draupadi. Yogsidhhi (success in yoga) Based On Original Authentic Versions Of Ved Vyass Mahabharat - 1) BORI - Critical Edition Of Mahabharata In Sanskrit (1966) 2) KMG - First English Translation Of Mahabharata (1894) when one’s personal and universal dharma are contrasting at the same time and he is in confussion then according to vedas one should follow the universal dharma . It was in fact Arjun who refrained from killing Karna after seriously wounding him in the final battle. I also belive to get a proper spiritual knowledge in a proper way, one should go to guru. Duryodhan would not have waged war Arjun Kills Karna - Disney+ Hotstar In this clip from episode 252 of Mahabharat, Arjun finally manages to get better of his arch-rival in the Battle of Kurukshetra. 1. 1) Duryodhan himself mentioned the death of Karna while extracting wheel of chariot. Based On Original Authentic Versions Of Ved Vyass Mahabharat - person having poor memory power to gain any knowledge. 7. The point is that arjuna won because of his charioteer n Karana lost because of his charioteer. have not been faithful, or your intelligence is not adequate. O tiger among men! As per pandavas fanatics, Arjuna didn’t cheated Karna as per BORI critical edition. describes some mental disorders of arjuna like, _________________________________________________________________________________, A) KARNA WAS THE ONLY Karna - the life-giver Along with Bhima, Yudhisthira, and Shadeva; he gave back life to Nakula also. - Karna and Arjuna are two valiant warriors, both important characters in the great Hindu epic, the Mahabharata. 5. my wheels get stuck in uneven terrain. Really shame on such person who, caused supreme lord to cry due his mental illness. Then, in the midst of the enemy in the battle, Dhananjaya’s arrow severed your head.’, KARNA WAS EXTRACTING WHEEL OF CHARIOT WHEN LORD SHIVA KILLED KARNA AIMED BY ARJUNA AND UNFAIR DEATH SANCTIONED BY PRINCE DURYODHANA. Karna was not given a chance to even hold the bow … as karna stood up and went towards the bow .. krishna indicated to draupadi to say no …… i am sure if karna would have given a chance he would have strung and hit the the mark …………………. following Question. RAM was 28ft tall , Krishna was 16ft tall , can we dismiss no ots yuga bheda , kunti having extra ordinary intelligence at six is no surprise , even I was taught entire 18 puranas at 6. In the battle, Karna’s wheel was submerged in the ground. When that standard was uprooted, fame, dharma, victory and everything that was dear to the hearts of the Kurus also fell down. Simple answer is Arjun. Indraputra Arjuna. Mahabharat-The Truth. TV Show. sufficient to obtain the state of the brahman. It was a rule that no weapons would be shot at each other, and at the enemy after the darkness. It shows anomaly. Chiraan shows Wikepedia is not authentic as anyone can change contents. Archery Range . Pls do not think i am against karna . C. Also on the dhwaja (flag) of Arjun’s chariot existed Mahaveer Hanumanji , and for your kind info, Hanumanji was Mahadev’s avtar. When Karna’s chariot wheel got stuck Arjun had initially kept down his weapons but it was Karna who during Krishna’s admonishing him suddenly aimed a weapon at Arjun which hit his arm and seriously injured him. Mahabharat-The Truth. Mahadev ke mahatwa ke bare mein aap na hi bole to achha hai. The very first verse in Mahabharata starts with Saunaka asking Oh Son of suta , please recite Mahabharata . Being a humble student of Shri Chiraan, I am proud to say, Glory only goes to Shri Chiraan for not answering this post of yours. Surya Drona rejected Karna on grounds of caste ? You will soon go away to Dvaraka. He was thus secretly a half-brother of Arjuna and contrasted with him by being of low status. Observers SONu and Nilesh also feel the arguments by Surya are insufficient to Prove Karna succeeded in Swayamvar. Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. and is victorious. Karna Vs Bhishma- Both Karna and Bhishma were powerful warriors but unlike Karna who did not defeat any major character in his lifetime except Bhima, Bhishma defeated or let's say made Parshurama accept defeat. Both were top class archers, very near to each other in standards. Yet Arjuna always stayed at Krishnas feet. O Partha! vyass Mahabharata, Karna was the most brilliant person having memory strong or. Book. It proves that, c) Karna was heedless (not engaged in war), B) APPROVAL OF GOLDEN WORDS OF DURYODHANA BY GODS, APSARAS, SIDDHAS OF HEAVEN. Poor Bheeshma - The Eternal Heroic Idol. Ganguly is authentic because it is approved by Wikepedia. Based On Original Authentic Versions Of Ved Vyass Mahabharat - 1) BORI - Critical Edition Of Mahabharata In Sanskrit (1966) 2) KMG - First English Translation Of Mahabharata (1894) Wednesday, 10 January 2018. It depands upon “PATR KI PATRTA” . He had many weapons but he was then. Closeness with Mahadev These are a few examples, if you want to know more about Mahadev’s mahatwa in mahabharat I suggest you to read mahabharat once again. Abhimanyu was not a match for Karna & Arjuna. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. karna vs satyaki !! Moreover Gandeev and Vijay were celestial bows did not require stringing as they were auto strung. Personal Blog . A REVIEW OF KARNA'S ROLE IN THE HUMILIATION OF DRAUPADI ACCORDING TO BORI (CRITICAL EDITION) DISROBING OF DRAUPADI IS AN INTERPOLATION. So, here we have Mahadev’s part in mahabharat. but still karna is praiseworthy as in spite of every thing going against him he didn’t backed but always firmly challenged arjun might . I feel this is a little tricky situation. If both parents are higher caste how child is relegated to be abused caste. B.R. He said, `Karna is going to kill Loss of anger towards dwijganas (eminent people) Rabu, 11 November 2020 22:56 KARNA VS ARJUNA To unfold the truth who was the greatest archer/warrior of mahabharata and who gets sympathy votes under the name of 3 supreme gods. He covered all the directions with clouds and it was as dark as a rainy day. Though Karna was saving the shakti astra for Arjuna, he ends up using to kill Gatotkacha, Bhima's … This book is read in universities. My understanding is if this kind of stories exists in our relision, it is not for everybody. Rukmi was also a student of Parshurama. remember there are two kinds of dharma that a person gets to see in his life . Bhima plucked a tree by the roots, and stripping it of foliage, stood armed with this formidable bludgeon, by the side of Arjuna ready for any event. Find out why ARJUN was the greatest warrior of Mahabharat. 3. The whole of Mahabharat is recited by SUTA , the son of lomaharshan . telling you everything in detail again. Mahabharata- a History or a Myth. Ähnliche Seiten. Karna had rites of SUta so he remained a suta. Lord Krishna never lamented for his decisions in his, life except his decision to impart knowledge of bhagvad gita to Arjuna. Pls do not think i am against karna . Log In. “I made you For the sake of victory, I The first half of the Kurukshetra war passes with Arjuna avoiding to go all out and kill his opponents. Mercy and favour of his father A suta cannot challenge a Prince , so unequal warfare was stopped between KArna and Arjun. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! It was the epic scene where arjuna hang down his head in shame and began to cry for his cowardice, C) APPROVAL OF GOLDEN WORDS OF DURYODHANA AND GODS BY LORD KRISHNA, On seeing this, Krishna spoke these words, in a voice that rumbled like clouds and drums. 3) Duryodhana was there to withness final encounter between Karna and Arjuna. like his SSC failed English killer followers. 2. Many will question here about calling draupadi a whore, doing injustice to abhimanyu and all that. Super comedian blondries always try their best to entertain us by posting jokes on their fan pages. Karna trembled. thats yuga bheda. Forgot bhagvad gita, forgot celestical weapons, UNFAIR DEATH OF KARNA FROM BORI CRITICAL EDITION. He was extracting wheel of chariot when he released varunastra so we can safely conclude that karna was lifting wheel of chariot in upcoming events that’s why he was silent in upcoming scene, KARNA WAS EXTRACTING WHEEL OF CHARIOT WHEN LORD SHIVA KILLED KARNA AIMED BY ARJUNA, c) Karna was heedless (not engaged in battle), PART-2 : UNFAIR DEATH OF KARNA FROM CROSS REFERENCE. He was also illiterate Brahmadand. Krishna was told by Munivar Upamanyu to worship Mahadev for desirous boons. Every mother wanted a soon like him. It blazed fiercely. Surpass curses, surpass illusions, surpass Brahmatej, Mental power of Arjuna – Finally Lord shiva killed Karna aimed by Arjuna still no narration about position of karna by sanjaya, 8) Sanjaya never mentioned exact position of Karna after releasing varunastra. this is what gives the reason for arjun vs karna battle . Guruji, regarding your article. Change ). Surya : Parshuram would have rejected KArna had he told he was Kshatriya or suta , so he lied to him as bramhin and got education ! In this clip from episode 252 of Mahabharat, Arjun finally manages to get better of his arch-rival in the Battle of Kurukshetra. Karna was extracting wheel of his chariot still arjuna attacked him it proves that arjuna was really coward. MOST PEOPLE DON'T CONSIDER THE SITUATION AND JUST... Karna vs … Draupadi The Fire Born … 4) Duryodhana himself narrated the unfair death of Karna while lifting wheel of chariot. Swayam Vichar Kijiye . B. Draupadi said nothing but stood holding on to the skirts of the deer-skin in which Arjuna was clad. his comments at draupadi vastraharan site and his role in abhimanu vadh are drastic errors he commited though he himself regreted them later but due to this only bhisma doesn’t allow him to fight under his flag as he was a asudh yodha ( someone who doesn’t respect women . ) So SUta is not a racial abuse , and pseudo sympathy for Karna as being abused as SUTA does not stand logically as he never was abused. His aim was releasing weapons and lifting wheel. 3. The great and divine weapons no longer manifested KID FOR WASTING HIS GITA KNOWLEDGE FOR SUCH HUMAN. karna always gave more importance to his personal dharma , his friendship to duryodhana more priority than supreme dharma where as arjuna always followed the universal … Thank you Guruji, that I also heard from our guruji back than, one should get knowledge from guru. Debator This version of ADI parva Mahabharata says Karna did not string the bow and failed in Swayamvar and there was no abuse from Draupadi. So Krishna did tapasya (penance) for a whole six months. To unfold the truth who was the greatest archer/warrior of mahabharata and who gets sympathy votes under the name of 3 supreme gods. But karna was defeated many times (twice by arjun and once by chitrasen and drupad ). Out of affection towards me, you spoke to me TV Show.