Google+. Both are also very good choices for hunting game like bighorn sheep, mountain goat, Himalayan Tahr and chamois. Indeed, it’s even possible to see that much shot to shot variation within the same box of ammo for a particular cartridge. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs 7mm-08 Remington ammo rounds. Maybe more, but can't remember. wusses when it comes to recoil. This helps support the blog and allows me to continue to create free content that’s useful to hunters like yourself. Hunters who look hard enough can probably find what they need, but it can be challenging sometimes. The particular 300 WSM load above shoots the same weight bullet at very nearly the same muzzle velocity (over 99% as fast), but uses about 8.5% less powder. However, as long as you can find a rifle and ammunition combination that function reliably and shoot accurately together, if using one of those cartridges improves the confidence of the shooter to a large enough degree, then by all means start hunting with a Winchester Short Magnum cartridge. Or was the Winchester Short Magnum line of cartridges just a scheme by Winchester to sell new rifles that’s cleverly disguised by a bunch of marketing hype? For those reasons, the two cartridges have very similar case capacity, but the 7mm Rem Mag can hold a tiny bit more powder than the 7mm WSM. Anyhow, I like the concept of the wsm family of cartridges. However, don’t underestimate the importance of the greater variety, wider availability, and lower overall cost of .270 Winchester rifles and ammunition. Both cartridges will work really well on whitetail and mule deer sized game out to several hundred yards. 7 mag. I'm sure not trading mine in for a 7mm, and if it ever comes time to need a new rifle it will probably be another .270 WSM. All that said I would pick the 7mm WSM over the 7mm rem mag. However, though Browning, Kimber, and Savage all manufactured 325 WSM rifles at one point, only Winchester currently offers current production rifles in the cartridge (the Model 70 and XPR at this point). These are interesting cases where both lines of ammo use the same style bullet for both cartridges, but the Nosler ammunition uses a heavier bullet for the .338 Win Mag and Winchester uses a heavier bullet for the 325 WSM. October 28, 2013 However, the two cartridges have some similarities as well. This specific model weighs 7.25 pounds when chambered in both 325 WSM and .338 Winchester Magnum. This is ture, but my tikka 300 wsm even over 100 thous off land and factory mag feed, it shoots better than seating it out to land. Since those older cartridges already have such well established (and deserved) reputations, not to mention an abundant selection of quality rifles and ammunition, any new cartridge competing against them had better provide a significant advantage to convince enough people to make that switch. with the 7mm i can find heavier loads than the wsm, which should be better, or is the 12 ga still a better choice for bears? The verdict? used for deer only! I’d have to compare the ballistics to double check The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but under-rated “standard” velocity cartridges. Twitter. Both are wonderful for situations like hunting mule deer in Arizona or pronghorn in Wyoming. Do the WSM cartridges offer tangible benefits to hunters and shooters? That’s is because the 325 Winchester Short Magnum load in question uses about 12% less powder than the .338 Win Mag. The .270 Winchester is one of the most popular centerfire rifle cartridges in North America and is very likely among the Top 10 (maybe Top 5) best selling rifle cartridges in the United States each year. What about when comparing bullets of the same or very similar weight? Between the .270 WSM and the 7mm mag, the 270 will have the higher ballistic coefficient and sectional density, given that both bullets are of the same type and weight. Compare the 180 gr 30-06 verses the 150 gr 270 WSM and you get the same or possibly less recoil and better ballistics all around except energy with the 270 WSM. It’s a wonderful cartridge and there are plenty of quality ammo and rifle choices for you. In the WSM .270 fans found a short, powerful, efficient round that could be housed in compact, lightweight short-action rifles and which edged closer to 7mm Rem. The great thing about the WSM family is that converting one to another is easy if the others die off(270,300,325). Both cartridges use cases derived from the long, belted .375 H&H Magnum. Goodbye 7mm Rem. Find a good gunsmith and get a muzzle brake! For those reasons, the .300 Win Mag actually has significantly more case capacity (around 10-15% more, depending on the manufacturer) than the 300 WSM. But, even though the .338 Winchester Magnum does have a belted case (which the 325 WSM lacks), the .338 Win Mag generally has a reputation for pretty reliable feeding in most rifles. The 7mm WSM and 7mm Remington Magnum are best suited for the exact same hunting situations. Additionally, the .300 Win Mag has a shoulder moved further forward than the 7mm Rem Mag. Both are also capable of outstanding accuracy in the right hands. This is not a hard and fast rule, but it is a common occurrence with these two particular cartridges. On the other hand, the 300 WSM has a slightly higher maximum SAAMI pressure than the .300 Winchester Magnum (65,000psi vs 64,000psi). The answers to the above questions really depend on the rifle, ammunition, and shooter in question though. It just seems to kill elk a lot better than the .270. However, the 7mm Remington Magnum has a gigantic advantage in terms of availability and variety of rifles and ammunition. The table below compares the recoil produced by two Nosler hand loads (available here and here) that essentially duplicate the AccuBond loads described above. This results in a little bit less recoil. Though Winchester advertises a 24″ long barrel and a 7.25 pound overall weight for each cartridge in this particular Model 70, the rifle chambered in 300 WSM is 1/2″ shorter overall. Though Winchester advertises a 24″ long barrel and a 7.25 pound overall weight for each cartridge in this particular Model 70, the rifle chambered in 325 WSM is 1/2″ shorter overall. The two cartridges (along with others like the 7mm Mauser, 7mm-08, 7mm Weatherby, 280 Remington, 280 Ackley Improved, and 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum) use the same .284″ bullets. I am happy with my decision. That's plausible. The .338 AccuBond load has a small, but definite advantage in wind drift at all ranges, but the 325 WSM has a bigger edge over the .338 Win Mag with the Winchester loads. So with that said, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the 300 WSM either I understand why other hunters prefer the 300 WSM. This is illustrated in the table below comparing Federal Premium and Hornady factory ammunition loaded with 180gr Trophy Bonded Tip (.500 BC) and 200gr Hornady ELD-X (.597 BC) bullets in .300 Winchester Magnum and 300 Winchester Short Magnum. Normally you’d be right and the rifle for the standard length cartridge would be either a little longer and heavier or virtually the same size and weight. After all, fans of the Winchester Short Magnum cartridges like to point out the benefits of the shorter and fatter powder column. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not … Using the 4 calibers you selected, I would go for the 300 win mag. The .300 Win Mag is a bit more widely adopted, but you probably won’t have any issues finding a nice rifle chambered in 300 WSM either. The 300 WSM and 325 WSM also have the benefit of doing all of the above with a modest decrease in recoil compared to the .300 Win Mag and .338 Win Mag while the 270 WSM offers a definite improvement in velocity over the .270 Winchester. Both have their good points. The .300 Winchester Magnum and 300 WSM (along with the .30-30 Winchester, .308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, .300 Remington Ultra Magnum, .300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum, 300 PRC, and .300 Weatherby) use the same .30 caliber bullets. Are you just itching to take a rifle chambered in one of these cartridges on a hunt? However, though the .300 Win Mag (like the 7mm Rem Mag) is derived from the .375 H&H Magnum and uses a fatter case than cartridges like the .270 and .30-06, the 300 WSM still has a much fatter case with less taper and a steeper shoulder angle (35 degrees vs 25 degrees). Vote: 7mm Rem Mag, 300 WSM, 300 Win Mag or 270 WSM? The data used to compare the trajectory and wind drift of the cartridges was obtained from Hornady (here, here, here and here), Federal (here, here, here, here, here, and here), Nosler (here), and Winchester (here). Once again, the 7mm WSM has a little bit less wind drift, but it’s an extremely small difference between them that’s due entirely to the slightly faster muzzle velocity of the Winchester Short Magnum cartridge. The 7mm WSM and 7mm Remington Magnum are best suited for the exact same hunting situations. This is one of the tougher aspects of using the 325 WSM: there’s not a gigantic variety of factory ammo or a large number of bullet choices for hand loaders to choose from. Is the 300 WSM capable of excellent accuracy? The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs .300 Winchester Magnum ammo rounds. Shooting 270 WSM and 7 Rem Mag edit b 1_2-18-2016 Vito Monopoli. The 270 Winchester Short Magnum very likely does gain some accuracy benefit from its shorter powder column. However, there are many, many other factors that influence accuracy more than that one trait. What about accuracy of the 325 WSM vs 338 Win Mag? That being said, it’s probably a little bit more expensive and, while there’s a good variety of ammo for the cartridge, the .270 Winchester usually has a bigger selection regardless of where you go. It’s not a big difference to be sure, but it’s something to keep in mind. Though I like the 325 wsm, ammo availability shut the door on it for me. On the other hand, the Winchester Short Magnum cartridge does not have a gigantic advantage in either category either and there’s actually a smaller difference in the ballistics of the 7mm WSM vs 7mm Rem Mag than there is with the 270 WSM vs 270 Winchester. While rifles chambered in both cartridges are manufactured with both 22″ and 24″ barrels, the shorter 22″ barrel length is more common with the .270 Winchester and the longer 24″ barrel is more common with the 270 WSM. Both cartridges also offer a substantial increase in power, both in terms of bullet frontal surface area and kinetic energy, over the 300 Magnums as well. Of these, 140 grain, 150 grain, 160 grain, and 175 grain loads are by far the most common. For instance, the 325 WSM has 99% of the energy of the .338 WSM at the muzzle, 94% at 200 yards, and 86% of the energy of the .338 Win Mag at 500 yards. All four loads used a 200 yard zero.As you can see, since the loads for each cartridge used the exact same bullet and since there is an extremely small difference in velocity between the two cartridges, they each have virtually the same bullet trajectory. In this article, I’m going to do a detailed analysis of the 270, 7mm, 300, and 325 Winchester Short Magnum cartridges and compare them to the .270 Winchester, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the .300 Winchester Magnum, and the .338 Winchester Magnum in an effort to answer the above questions and parse out the their true strengths and weaknesses so you can make an informed decision regarding which one will work best for you. With that in mind, the 325 WSM is a better choice for situations where very large and tough game like sambar deer or moose are likely to be encountered at close range. But, even though the 300 Winchester Magnum does have a belted case (which the 300 WSM lacks), the 300 Win Mag generally has a reputation for pretty reliable feeding in most rifles. Is the 7mm WSM capable of excellent accuracy? Remember: we’re talking about accuracy under practical hunting conditions, not benchrest shooting where a tiny improvement in group size can make a big difference. The 7mm WSM also has a higher maximum SAAMI pressure than the 7mm Remington Magnum (65,000psi vs 61,000psi). Maximum pressure obtained from SAAMI (p23, 24, 28, 30, 31, and 32). This means that it’s possible to build a short action rifle that’s a tiny bit shorter and lighter than an otherwise identical rifle with a standard length action. 08-06-2007, 12:56 AM. i was kinda leaning towards the 7mm. but which would get the nod and which would you pick and why? For all intents and purposes, there is no difference between them ballistically and both cartridges will really do a number on most species of big game. The generally better feeding and overall reliability of most 7mm Remington Magnum rifles is a big plus as well. I've always used a .30-06 but pipeline hunting is a new experience compared to the short-range thick brush situations I've always hunted. Even though you’re probably not giving up any magazine capacity due to the fat and stubby design of the 300 WSM cartridge, those same traits (along with the cartridge’s very steep shoulder angle) can sometimes present feeding problems. The 7mm Remington Magnum is one of the most popular centerfire rifle cartridges in North America and is likely among the Top 10 best selling rifle cartridges in the United States. For this reason, while they will do the job on deer sized game, the 325 WSM and .338 Win Mag are both excellent choices for larger game like caribou, elk, moose, red stag, kudu, and eland. Many target shooters found this to be detrimental to extreme accuracy. The situation with rifles in is pretty similar. All told, both are wonderful cartridges for hunting some of the larger species of North American big game or African plains game. The table below compares the recoil produced by two Nosler hand loads (available here and here) with ballistics roughly comparable to the 140gr loads above for those cartridges when fired from a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight rifle. Maybe, but I doubt that it’s a big enough difference to really matter. 7mm-08. They’re both solid performing cartridges, but I’d personally choose the 7mm Remington Magnum over the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum. Felt recoil will vary from shooter to shooter and rifle to rifle, but free recoil energy is still a useful way to compare cartridges.As you can see, the two cartridges have almost identical amounts of recoil with the 7mm Rem Mag in this particular example actually having a tiny bit less free recoil energy than the 7mm WSM. Even so, I’d personally lean towards .338 Win Mag since it generally functions more reliably, shoots larger diameter bullets, and is usually a tiny bit more powerful. However, both the 7mm Remington Magnum and 7mm Winchester Short Magnum cartridges are capable of excellent accuracy in the right hands and will get the job done under most circumstances if the shooter is up to the task. However, while that may well contribute somewhat to improved accuracy, there are many other factors that influence accuracy to a much larger degree. is still less than 2 inches. The 325 WSM has similar ballistics to the magnum action, medium bore 8mm Remington Magnum and 8×68 S cartridges. Since the 270 WSM uses a significantly shorter cartridge, you’d probably expect rifles in that cartridge to be shorter and lighter than rifles chambered in .270 Winchester. The .338 Winchester Magnum (along with the .338 Federal, .338 Lapua, .340 Weatherby Magnum, .338 Ruger Compact Magnum, and .338 Remington Ultra Mag) all use the same .338″ bullets. Exactly why I went with 7mm. Additionally, the Winchester Short Magnum Cartridges all have a case with very minimal taper and a 35 degree shoulder. By. I too have shot both and I prefer the .270WSM. Both rifles in this case also have a 3 round magazine as well, so there’s no advantage there with either cartridge. The 270 WSM does indeed have a flatter trajectory and more resistance to wind drift than the .270 Winchester. That small reduction in recoil is also particularly helpful here as well. First, the 7mm Remington Magnum cartridge is significantly longer. However, while that factor may well contribute to better accuracy, there are many other factors that influence accuracy to a much larger degree. As you can see, both AccuBond loads have similar ballistics, but the 325 WSM AccuBond load has a slightly flatter trajectory while the .338 Win Mag AccuBond load retains more kinetic energy at all ranges. While virtually every big ammo manufacturer produces factory hunting ammo for the .338 Win Mag, only Nosler and Winchester Ammunition currently produce 325 WSM hunting ammo as part of their Trophy Grade, Expedition Big Game, Power Max Bonded, and Super X lines (loaded with the AccuBond, E-Tip, AccuBond CT, Bonded Rapid Expansion Hollow Point, and Power-Point bullet respectively), For those reasons, most sporting goods stores usually carry ammunition for the .338 Win Mag, but 325 WSM ammo can be significantly harder to find. Though Winchester advertises a 24″ long barrel and a 7.25 pound overall weight for each cartridge in this particular Model 70, the rifle chambered in 7mm WSM is 1/2″ shorter overall. That’s not a gigantic difference, but it’s certainly not nothing either. This is illustrated in the table below comparing Federal Premium and Hornady factory ammunition loaded with 140gr Trophy Bonded Tip (.430 BC) and 162gr ELD-X (.631 BC) bullets in 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem Mag. The chart below compares how much a 10 mile per hour crosswind impacts those same four loads out to 500 yards.Once again, the results are mixed. Prospects for new rifles chambered in 7mm Winchester Short Magnum are already pretty dim and it’s possible that things will also be heading that way soon with factory ammo. While it’s certainly nice to have if possible, a the difference in a theoretical 1.25″ vs a 1.5″ group most likely won’t matter much while actually hunting at reasonable ranges. The 325 WSM also has a slightly higher maximum SAAMI pressure than the .338 Winchester Magnum (65,000psi vs 64,000psi).Unlike all the other comparisons in this article, the 325 WSM and .338 Win Mag use different sized bullets. The first three cartridges were all designed and marketed specifically as short action alternatives to extremely popular and effective standard length cartridges: the .270 Winchester for the .270 Winchester Short Magnum, the 7mm Remington Magnum for the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum, and the .300 Winchester Magnum for the 300 Winchester Short Magnum. Indeed, the 6.5 Remington Magnum, the .350 Remington Magnum, and the line of proprietary Lazzeroni cartridges all came on the scene before the WSM line, but none really caught fire for various reasons. This specific model weighs 7.25 pounds when chambered in both 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem Mag. Virtually every major brand of ammo is available in 7mm Rem Mag. However, similar to the case of the 300 WSM vs 300 Win Mag, the 325 WSM is capable of attaining almost the same performance as the .338 Win Mag while using less powder. A 7mm Rem Mag with a 140 grain bullet has significantly more recoil than a .270 WSM with a 130 grain bullet unless you use a muzzle brake. Just put your shot were it needs to go. The .270 WSM is a good cartridge but, honestly, it is a very small player in terms of market share. Was wondering does anyone have much experience with the newer 7mm WSM (short mag) and how you think it compares to my Win mod 70 .270. 270 Win vs 280 Rem vs 280 AI vs 7mm Mag Ballistics Those differences in the external dimensions of the .270 Winchester, .280 Remington, .280 Ackley Improved, and 7mm Remington Magnum do translate into differences in ballistic performance, though probably not quite as much as you’d initially expect. If you already have a quality rifle that you like chambered in either cartridge though, I don’t see any compelling reason to make a switch to the other one unless you just want to. The answers to the above questions really depend on the rifle, ammunition, and shooter in question though. That’s a pretty major step down in recoil, especially when you take into account that you’re getting almost the same amount of performance out to 200-300 yards. While both cartridges are really too light for hunting extremely large, thick skinned dangerous game like cape buffalo, they will both fit the bill for hunting Grizzly or Alaska Brown Bear. The 7mm WSM, 25 WSSM, and 223 WSSM are the guests of honor at a wake near you. However, regardless of the firearm in question, rifles chambered in .270 Winchester can usually hold an extra round or two in the magazine since that cartridge has a slimmer case. This is obviously not great news for fans of the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum and does not bode well for the future of the cartridge. Before we get started, I have an administrative note: Some of the links below are affiliate links. As you can see, since the loads for each cartridge used the exact same bullet and since the 270 WSM had a slight advantage (about 200-300 fps) in velocity it has a slightly flatter trajectory than the .270 Winchester that’s nearly on par with the .270 Weatherby (270 Wby). more RE at MPBR than the 140 grain 7mm load and 25 ft. lbs. 0 0. Factory loads for the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem Mag often use the exact same bullets fired at virtually the same muzzle velocity. The 325 WSM shoots .323″ bullets while the .338 Win Mag uses .338″ bullets. Taken together, these factors all maximize the case capacity of the WSM cartridges, even though their overall length of 2.86″ is still short enough to fit in a short-action rifle. The 270 WSM and 325 WSM are more of a mixed bag, but offer advantages to hunters in certain aspects as well and this is reflected in their popularity in particular segments of the hunting community as a whole. The .338 Winchester Magnum and 325 Winchester Short Magnum cartridges have similar, external ballistics, especially at ranges inside 300 yards. WaffenlandTV 42,763 views. The situation is a little different with the Winchester factory load and the 325 WSM has the edge in retained energy. At the same time, the lighter recoil and flatter trajectory of the 325 WSM give it a bit of a leg up on .338 Win Mag for hunting deer sized game where the extra power of the .338 Win Mag isn’t as useful. Additionally, while neither cartridge has a belt, the .270 Winchester uses a traditional rimless design while the 270 WSM has a rebated rim. This makes sense since the 270 WSM is specifically designed to fit in a short action rifle instead of a standard length action like the .270 Winchester. 7mm WSM vs 7mm Rem Mag Mag. Once again, the 270 WSM has a slight advantage over the .270 Winchester in this area. Use A Thermacell To Stop Bug Bites While Hunting & Camping. Felt recoil will vary from shooter to shooter and rifle to rifle, but free recoil energy is still a useful way to compare cartridges.As you can see, that particular 325 WSM load has about 83% of the free recoil energy of the .338 Win Mag load, which is a pretty major reduction in recoil. Let me know if you have any questions or requests. It drops deer in their tracks. John de Witt. 7mm Mag, not so much. At reasonable shooting ranges, there’s very little practical difference between them ballistically and both cartridges will really do a number on both species of game. Ok let’s give them the benefit of the doubt and say they like availability and reliable feeding. Interestingly enough, a .323″ bullet diameter is exactly halfway between the .308″ bullets used by the 300 WSM and .300 Win Mag on one hand, and the .338″ bullets used by the .338 Win Mag on the other. Load some 208 eldm and push it at 2800fts, it’s a hammer! Once again, there is essentially no difference between the recoil of the two cartridges though. The 325 WSM is an attractive choice for hunters in the niches I described above and those that use the cartridge generally seem to absolutely love it. Is it significantly more accurate than the .270 Winchester? If you prefer a shorter, potentially lighter rifle, that’s slightly faster cycling and easier to carry, but still has magnum performance, then go with the 300 WSM. Thanks for your support. So, while the rifle chambered in 7mm WSM is not really any lighter, it’s a tiny bit shorter and handier. This specific model weighs 7.25 pounds when chambered in 270 WSM and 7 pounds when chambered in .270 Winchester. Like I mentioned a minute ago, that particular 325 WSM load above has essentially the same trajectory and still has about 95% of the kinetic energy of that .338 Win Mag load. is i worth my time to get a 7mm wsm, i am looking at getting a browning X-bolt for hunting elk in either 7mm rem mag or 7mm wsm, the rem mag has 26 inch barrel and the wsm has 23 inch barrel would that make any difference, and i noticed that there is not as many factory loads for the wsm, but i have found a few that i know will work, and i plan on learning how to reload. Perhaps the most surprising comparative result was that the 150 grain .270 WSM load carries more energy downrange than either of the 7mm Rem Mag loads. would the 2 have any difference in recoil using those bullet weights? However, the 270 WSM uses a heavier rifle and the .270 Winchester gets a slight edge when both are used in the same weight rifle. The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. The two cartridges have a virtually identical trajectory out to 400 yards, but the less aerodynamic .338 bullet starts to drop off in performance at longer range compared to the 325 WSM. However, standard/long actions and short actions are two of the most common and are most relevant to the development of the Winchester Short Magnum line of cartridges. The chart below compares how much a 10 mile per hour crosswind impacts those same four loads out to 500 yards.Once again, the .300 Win Mag Hornady load has the edge over the 300 WSM in this area. As far as the discussion between the 300 short mag and the 7mm mag I think you are splitting hairs. That’s not meant to be a knock on the Winchester Short Magnum line either. I’m not sure if it cracks the  Top 10 best selling rifle cartridges in the United States each year, but it’s likely in the Top 15 or Top 20. 300 wsm 180 Accubond 7mm rem mag 160 Accubond to 500 yards. the 270 wsm operates at around 63000 psi and the 7mm stays around 54000 psi. Does the difference between the two cartridges in terms of accuracy make a difference for most hunters under typical conditions? The chart below compares how much a 10 mile per hour crosswind impacts those same four loads out to 500 yards. After all, fans of the Winchester Short Magnum cartridges like to point out the benefits of the shorter and fatter powder column. Additionally, the .338 Winchester Magnum is a traditional belted magnum while the 325 WSM has a rebated rim and no belt. More on this in a minute, but it’s worth noting that for those two AccuBond loads in particular, the 325 WSM has almost 95% of the kinetic energy of the .338 Win Mag and has essentially the same trajectory out to 200 yards. I guess riflemen are becoming I think we can agree that most hunters and shooters in North America are probably familiar with the venerable .270 Winchester, 7mm Remington Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum cartridges. 7mm rem mag is good, but higher chance to hit and still run First, the .270 Winchester is significantly longer. that. Maybe, but probably not. This is not a guarantee of course and some 300 WSM rifles feed quite reliably. What about accuracy of the 300 Win Mag vs 300 WSM? This is a benefit that should not be overlooked either. I can see the advantage of the short action, but you are asking which one is better in performance for long distance. 7mm Rem. Due to the long running popularity of 7mm cartridges like those just mentioned, there’s a great selection of quality bullets to choose from for both cartridges. 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