lynx vs meidjo

We know what we need in a tele boot to match up to the TTN bindings like Meidjo and Lynx. With heel cables each inch of heel lift increases tip pressure on the ski. Continue browsing in r/telemark. offer a much simpler user interface as well as being … There’s also Skeats in a pinch. But I am not running the brakes on my Meidjos this season preferring leashes which I have used for 20+ years. Looks verry nice!! Low-tech toe powered by NTN. Releasabilty is important to me off piste (done both ACLs over the years!). To do so, you have to do these steps, harm the binding up, push down and clip the touring hook. I just got new revised springs that’s suppose to fix the claw grab issues from 22 and can’t wait to test them. Do the 3.0's have two spring option, like the 2.1s? But if only looking at this feature, Meidjo 3.0 is really good (tried without the brakes). Boots are now the linchpin to the progression of the telemark future. The ideal climbing heel post for Lynx may be even lower, which raises the possibility that 22D’s spring activated climbing wire may be available on a shorter post that can work with competitor’s tele bindings. For the best touring efficiency, a 2-pin toe is the way to go. We are having a very slow start here this year snow wise and it has me trying to improve my rock ski quiver. Post Covid, I’d love to see a ‘uni-style’ debate about the merits of Lynx vs Meidjo. The relative bending position of composite leaf-springs does affect the perception of power when initiating a turn, but once the heel is lifted more than, say seven degrees, the tension from the coil springs dominate and there is no discernable difference between any of the leaf bending positions. Update on Meidjo 2.1. To which I can say it’s on par with the fantastic performance of Meidjo or Outlaw. I would love to use my 2017 model Scarpa F1 Boots as they are my go to slippers. Something like the Outlaw X has and even more if possible, but not like the first version of the Outlaw cause it did’nt had much more travel than a Rotefella Freeride. Disappointed that the linx prototype broke on me while testing at the Copper on-snow. 22 Designs Outlaw X Binding Part. subjective point view. Members. The Meidjo is the best all in one solution in that category for me. But I was really suprised by the new low tech and the second anchor bevel that allows for a true step in (no need to arm the binding like before. Actually in the new Telemark Skier edition that mentions the new 22 Designs Lynxs it also reviews a 22 Designs mount plate that supposedly works with a large number of bindings, NTN, 75 mil etc. No doubt when the conditions are ripe for icing there is bound to be some collecting around and under the toe springs. Basically, there is a breakable ‘fuse link’ that if you are caught in an avy, they stretch to the full extent of the coiled leash (approx. We apologize for the inconvenience. How Lynx does that is unique, borrowing some from 22D’s past, with a new spin for the future. I like to have the binding in the touing mode to put it on, so their is nothing in the way to get the insert lined up. But the worst part about the Meidjo is that a single binding mount requires 10 holes, including the 2 for the heel plate. save. Accessibility Help I’m no used to low tech and getting in and out, I expected it to be hard. No more Meidjo for me. Lynx is about as easy to step into as a 2-pin fiddler binding can be. Thanks in advance! Matt October 4, 2019 - 1:14 pm. Simple question I guess. Spring conditions with sticky snow I also had major problems with boot jack and snow packing into the binding. I have the 2.1, just got them in March. So what’s the bottom line? Finally, like you, I appreciate the idea of having 8 binding screws vs 13. Those bindings are the go-to options for touring. Continue browsing in r/telemark. The bindings are killer, will experiment keeping them on for the transition, but the instructions claim you still must release and kick back in. So far, I’ve broken all the bindings I had, G3, BD, bulldog, except HammerHead and Outlow. I'm also on the M 3.0s - second day on them today (on NTNs) in general. No dedicated Lynx crampons at this point, but the slots are there for them, so they will be an option. Step in is not my number one criteria to judge a binding. Sheesh!!) Minor icing issue in Trois valleys after a long day; I just carry a tool to poke ice out (all bindings ice in my experience, but M 2.1 very good, just keep them clean). Erfolgreiches Trading beginnt mit dem richtigen Online-Broker ᐅ LYNX: Das Depot für aktive Investoren & Trader Jetzt Wertpapiere handeln! Whether I chose one over the other would be more a matter of other factors than the tele sensation they deliver because all are the best there has ever been in the tele kingdom. With practice anyone can get in as easy as I did but newbies to the 2-pin realm would appreciate some form of visual alignment. The cause is a lifestyle, a life-affirming means of self-expression that most wouldn't dare try to comprehend. Castlegar BC, Craig – I was struck by your comment: “Otherwise, get a leash with a small gauge wire loop “calibrated” to break in an avalanche.” Does anyone make such a leash, or have you made one yourself? In a quick survey of three other Lynx testers at the WWSRA demo at Copper mountain (Jan. 29-20, 2018) they all said the Meidjo was slightly stronger, or more active than Lynx, as evidenced by a stronger rebound at the end of the turn. The Meidjo 2.1 is a 2 pin NTN binding and uses a Dynafit style tech toepiece combined with dual underfoot springs and latching spring box that connects to the NTN 2nd heel under the mid foot. Lynx With the Meidjo 2.1 and Lynx we now have a choice of bindings that offer excellent control and efficient touring mode. For comparison the Outlaw had a standard spring set on 3, Meidjo was also set to 3 with a doubled-up standard spring, and Lynx was at the “factory” setting as determined by Chris and Collins. Otherwise, get a leash with a small gauge wire loop “calibrated” to break in an avalanche. What is unacceptable, in my mind, is that those glitches destroy other components of my kit. Yes there are such a thing and they work very well.Take a look at http://www.bndskigear.com./skileash.html. Good that I had a second set, away in the Alps Craig Dostie takes a first few spins on the new NTN telemark-tech binding from 22 Designs, the Lynx. The Meidjo 2.1 is a step in binding. My wife and I have used them for years on our touring set up. 4 comments. With the Lynx tele-résistänçe, the tension that adds control to the rear ski, comes from the combination of steel compression coil springs (classic 22 DNA), and two strips of composite fiberglass acting as a leaf-spring. I just blew out the bellows on my BD Customs after 10 years of faithful service. Good in mixed UK/Scotland backcountry conditions (when it snows-incrasingly rare now with Global warming). Your email address will not be published. I can imagine the claw retracting if there were enough sideways force and the 10° bevel on the sides of the 2nd heel helps it potentially slide out. Then, put it on by aligning the the pins witht the boots inserts and press donw, you can wigle a bit if nee… Howdy Rene, how do you do stick the Meijio 3 in tour mode? CV: Yea. Estimated MSRP: $500 My 15 year old daughter races in them (she has ditched her Rottefellas). It sports a similar downhill feel as Outlaw, with the touring efficiency of Dynafit’s legendary low-tech system, combined with 22D’s reputation for durability. Skied on the Meidjo last season (Sn 298) with some issues (posted in last year's thread) and have now been out for the first day of the season touring this week. Hope this helps I skied Lynx side-by-side with both and while there are differences, they are subtle. The Lynx is light, weighing a smidgen over a pound per foot. Hold your horses cowboy! It's a pleasure to see you here. Try before u buy. Matt October 4, 2019 - 1:15 pm. They fix the one, huge downfall of the 75mm which is touring capability. The kit comes with several of 2 sizes of breakable fuse links. (Note: To get past the second side you need to wiggle a bit until it pulls through.) Im Laufe von nunmehr fünf Jahrzehnten änderten sich mehrfach die Eigentumsverhältnisse an dem Unternehmen, Lynx blieb jedoch stets im englischen Süd… I'm making deeper turns than ever before with the single spring. The Lynx uses composite flex plates and compression springs to deliver tele tension like a leaf spring, only lighter. So is that too much difference? is the second spring worth it? The toe piece of the Lynx felt like a competent execution of the classic low-tech design. Log In I think 75mm will be around for a long time. This alone makes telemark able to keep up with the alpine tourers. As of this writing the Lynx heel post has yet to be developed. Seems sensible to me as leashes are really just a tool to comply with ski area policy to prevent a runaway ski. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The spring on M2 does release and is adjustable; not guaranteed of course, but comforting to me. So for demo purposes a Vice heel post was used. Well done 22Designs. While there are other manufactures out there toying with NTN binding designs (most notably the Meidjo from M-Equipment), the fact that 22 Designs would be able to develop the first real alternative on the market to the Rottefella Freedom and Freeride was a sign that, contrary to popular belief, Telemark is not dead, and it is not dying. Hiroki Ide On my first comparison I thought the forward position was more active than the rear. Taylor Johnson on the early morning hunt. The Lynx appears capable of turning 22 Designs into the world’s premier telemark binding company. The rule of Winter ’15 season has been to act fast when fresh snow arrives, otherwise there won’t be much left. Probably Dynafit as well. The Lynx & Meidjo bindings are great, but can their weight & reliability be brought closer in line with, say, a Dynafit Superlight? 22 Designs Lynx Binding Part. Just like modern alpine touring bindings with pin-tech style systems, these bindings allow for a more efficient uphill touring experience. Meidjo… Fuhgetaboutit! hide. Meidjo has been prone to above-average icing problems because it had lots of cavities and metal for snow to collect in and get packed into ice. Your last sentence nails it Bobby. Whether that’s in the final production version will depend on patent issues. Telemark Gear Guru, Craig Dostie, takes a first look at the new 22 Designs Lynx telemark tech binding. Good to film it for later. Of the three, Lynx engaged the fastest, while Outlaw had the most power. The binding was less than flawless, here are the details: (sorry about the long post with no pictures - maybe I should add some emoticons?) Online. Also, Not sure if you can compare the linx to the outlaw or Axl in terms of power…. Most important that sets them apart is release function is a knee saver, it works. I haven't looked at them in a couple of years, but can the new Meidjo be switched between modes with a pole? who queried re: a breakable leash. Maybe with a placebo pill I would be more perceptive. Estimated weight (per/binding): Small – 17 oz. LYNX bietet transparente und günstige Konditionen. I think the effective pivot location for the spring tension is dominated by the location of the cable anchoring the coil springs. Thanks – Seth. As with Rottefella’s Freeride in the early days there is a lack of field evidence on how well this works. My only beef with the Lynx is the claw grabs sometimes when touring in deep snow and it’s a bit too active/stiff. I don't mind kneeling down to engage a binding, but for some reason I really don't want to for transitions. When the spring tension is applied to the boot at the second heel, effectively in the middle of the sole, the resulting power transfer feels smoother because the lever arm is shorter with less pressure applied at the tip. (since they are the true comparable bindings). Of the three, Lynx engaged the fastest, while Outlaw had the most power. But on the current information it would appear to be fair to say the Lynx and Meidjo will weigh near enough the same which is roughly 500g per binding. Coming out of the turn the Meidjo is reactive, especially with the additional springs. Telemark isn’t dead, it’s more in that awkward age where it’s laying low, trying to figure out what it wants to be when it grows up. Used it extensively now. Time will tell but so far the 2.0 version sure looks close to perfect for me. Stiffness, fit, durability, etc. There will probably also be a stiffy spring option. Three companies come to mind making these small-gauge wire loops – G3, Plum, Marker. I not used VOILE – so I have no opinion. In that regard it works very, very well. I have telemarked for 19 years now on 5 bindings. The Meidjo 2.1 also has step-in, ski brakes, ski crampons, lateral release and optional heel retention with the Alpine Heel Unit. 4 comments. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Got my fingers crossed the final version Will work as designed-. Eventually I plan on getting a pair of Lynx or meidjo for the backcountry but was curious to hear everyone's take about the the similarities and differences between these two boots. Had high hopes, and looks like we’ll just have to be patient and wait for a revised version. Yes, there is a soft spring and a hard spring with 3.0. Was thinking of using the heel from a Fritschi Tecton binding (the Kingpin killer) with a Meidjo which opens up the boot choice to any NTN boot regardless of heel inserts - if an occasionally locked heel is wanted - but the weight is 328gms or 400gms with brakes vs 120gm for a Meidjo Alpine heel. hide. Getting out, while improved, remains a task that requires coordination and a bit of technique. Don't let a case of the Monday's get you down! The Meidjo was designed to ski more like a duckbill in this regard, giving a better BOF sensation with pretty significant initial heel off the top plate pulldown. However, I don’t foresee it clinging to the composite plates, and with the claw remaining open, it won’t collect there either. It's up to you to be the navigator. And welcome to Reddit! Quite simply AWESOME! report. The Meidjo 2.1 Telemark Tech Binding by The M-Equipment Co is a game changer binding for any telemark skier looking to move light and fast in the mountains. Lightweight and bomber 22D quality! CV: Fall 2015 is the plan. and three pins they all get skied. It is possible that Lynx could be more ‘active.’ However, Meidjo or Outlaw could be noticeably more active too. For all things telemark ski-related. I fixed it in the field with 2 part epoxy putty & got going again quick. MEIDJO 2.1 + SKI-BRAKES 2.1 : when ordering a Meidjo 2.1 binding and for technical reasons, please send us an email to with the reference of your order and the size of ski-brake 2.1 you want: 85, 95, 105, 120 or 130mm. Karhu 7 tm pioneered this concept, I think, and mine have had no problems for many 70 plus backcountry day -years, plus they RELEASE which is a boon skiing the tip-grabbing trees in these low-tide years. report. Welcome to r/telemark Rene. We apologize for the inconvenience. When? To my reckoning, Meidjo and Lynx were nearly indistinguishable. Jamie Joseph Meidjo 2.0 – 2 damage in the field. All good fun. It’s about on par with Meidjo. 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